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- From: pete@borland.com (Pete Becker)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++
- Subject: Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada
- Date: 6 Mar 1996 15:53:50 GMT
- Organization: Borland International
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- In article <4hdt4a$ag9@galaxy.ucr.edu>, thp@cs.ucr.edu says...
- >
- >
- >Pete Becker writes:
- >>
- >> >P.S. My students say that C is an in-joke that everyone now knows,
- >> >while C++ is a shaggy dog whose punch line is STL.
- >>
- >> I would hope that you are teaching them critical analysis rather than
- analysis
- >> by one-liners. Unfortunately, context-free assertions about the complexity
- of
- >> C++ are not a useful base for a serious analysis. What are the
- alternatives,
- >> and what, objectively, are the critical needs that those alternatives do
- not
- >> answer?
- >
- >We try! Actually, the one-liners are a glib way of expressing
- >judgments, not of arriving at them.
-
- Unfortunately, if comp.lang.c is at all typical, most language
- discussions turn on one liners rather than analysis.
- I can't help but notice that this message contains no response to my
- question: what are the alternatives to C++ and what are the critical needs
- that those alternatives do not answer? Endless discussions that amount to "C++
- does this badly and language X does it well" do not get at the core issue of
- the utility of language X in the real world. If you want to persuade me that
- I should choose language X rather than some other language I need to know
- where I will run into problems if I take your advice.
-
-